Wow the comments on this board are amazingly enlightening. Talk about insight! I can see so much intelligence here it's intimidating and I don't consider myself stupid either. I understand that, to some certain aspects of my account about the co seem unbeleivable to some. I'm only relating what my mother told me. Maybe she thought it would make me feel better through exoneration. I too had a hard time beleiving the co got that pissed. As for the five minute thing, I think they made up there minds about me a long time ago and no, I didn't sleep with a goat but if stayed in their another year or two yikes! What happened was I unable to get a girlfreind in the witnesses without an elder breathing down my back. I was a good kid, honest, hard working still avirgin but they sanctioned my life more and more as I got older. No concerts, no chess, no dungeons and dragons, no nothing.My father wanted me to go to law school, but I just couldn't take it anymore. I'm also a good looking guy and I never touched a witness girl. I did not want to bring shame on the congregation. But as I felt my life being pissed away and was extremely unhappy from a situation the elders created I felt trapped. I could not relate to women in the world either. I felt if I did not do something radical I would remain this way for the rest of my life. My only option was losing my virginity to a prostitute and I felt so bad I told a sister I thought I could confide in and she ratted me out. It was devastating. Please don't judge me until you read my official bio. They judged me! what I did was extreme but what they did to me throughout my childhood was extreme.
Tyrone van leyen
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Tyrone van leyen
Dude, i'm living in canada and I got canned in 1984. I even tried going back for 1 year and was sat at the back of the kingdom hall completly ignored by all my peers. I even went home one day and my brother locked me out. Every single thing I did was sanctioned and designed to bring me to my knees with my families help. Does anybody know if this is the way things are done in canada. I was convinced for years it was a total conspiracy
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Tyrone van leyen
Holy crap, are you kidding how could this happen then? Are you telling me that in the first place this shouldn't have happened and now after my life sentence with never an apology from a single person all of a sudden it never happened. What a load of shit! I want to heads to roll like danny hazzard but i'm sooo tired. speechless!
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Tyrone van leyen
When I was in my late teens they were starting to put the screws to my brothers for baptism and I was next. I refused although they pressured me to pick someone to study with. But the baptism never occured. I did something outrageous and out of character but I don't know if this is the right place to explain it. I have written a full account of what happened in my life and it gives a very good overveiw of why I did what I did. I'm mot sure where to post it or if I should post it. So in short, what happened was I simply tried to fade due to the shame and hostility and my father dragged me back to these fuck wits to face the music. I don;t think it lasted 5 minutes and my life was never the same again. So I suppose you could say I was formally disassociated. The thing that gets me is, I think I was treated worse than someone who gets disfellowshiped. Why have two different names for the same thing? I sure wasn't expecting that. Anyways I'm not sure which question you were refering to but if it was the one in my last thread the question is how do you feel about destroying records, on the one hand it's nice to have a clean slate [supposedly] but at the same time as was stated it doesn't make any difference in the way people perceive you. On the other hand such records might be useful someday in the future if courts actually start to recognize the massive damage done to families.Maybe it just plain doesn't matter and i'm only dreaming.
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Tyrone van leyen
Oh ho, this is getting better! so I was lied to again. I never realized what a beurocracy this religion was. Do other religions keep such extensive records? By the way although I was born in jws and was a natural orator, They would never promote me or my brothers up the ladder. I went out on service only once I was 10 years old and was told by this elder to take with me 3 other witness boys and show them the ropes. What ropes, it was my first time and last. He was trying to break me! Therefore no publisher records. I feel I was singled out because they were jealous. I never got to really know the inner workings of these people and only now after 40 years has my father become an elder. so the only records i'm concerned with is the ones that will make them look bad or incriminate them. By the way I'm delighted to hear you tashed all those records but even still do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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Sunday's public talk about 1914 mentioned 586
by GBSJG inthe public talk of last sunday was about 1914, the last days and the prophecy of daniel.. so the speaker explains how we get to the 2520 years and that jerusalem fell in 607. but after that he must have talked about the 586 date for 5 minutes.
he said that some say the jerusalem fell in 586 instead of 607. but then you would not get to 1914 but 1934 and nothing special happened then.
then he says that jw have published convincing material about why the date must be 607 without mentioning what that material exactly is (he actually said this several times).
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Tyrone van leyen
Giving a talk mentioning that date on stage is witness suicide. Opening a huge can of worms in public like that I can't help but think that was totally pre-meditated. That took balls! It also served a threefold purpose. 1. pissing off the elders 2.sewing seeds of doubt and curiosity 3 opening the door to a more dignified exit after dropping a bomb. I hope this is something that happens more on account of the internet in the future.
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Looks like were both newbies here. You are the first responder of my first post ever. I don't know about you but iv'e been lurking for a while. It's funny but your'e words are comforting thank you! I probably wouldn't ever have given it a second thought and completly walked away with less baggage had not my entire family been heavily into that bull shit. It's difficult to get affirmation when your'e dealing with folks who are hell bent on watchtower doctrine and try anything to mess with your noodle. Anytime you want to talk about life on it's own terms growing up you get hit over the head with a watchtower and a guilt trip.
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circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records
by Tyrone van leyen insomething very unusual happened the other day.
after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.
he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.
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Tyrone van leyen
Something very unusual happened the other day. After 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story. He was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious. In society 20 years is a life sentence. In actual fact it's more than a life sentence cuz I now have to deal with enough baggage to fill an aircraft carrier. At any rate, he demanded that any record of my dismissal be destroyed. What really does this mean with regards to my status. Does it really change anything or anybody's perception of me. Iv'e never heard of this being done before. Has it happened to anyone else? Do you really think he did this or was it it just talk. My parents are well to do, both retired and living well. Could it be if they were poor this wouldn't have taken place as co's depend on the freinds for accomadation. Was he mad because the elders were in fact, messing with his bread and butter. I'm just curious. I promised myself a long time ago I would drop dead in my pine box before I would ever bend a knee to these ass wipes. Also if the records were destroyed than as far as they are concerned it never happened. This means if true, that there never will be a chance for justice in the future should the courts ever allow such documentation in the courtroom.
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HAVE JWS RUINED YOUR LIFE??????
by chuckyy inim sitting here today thinking:.
"my daughter should have had open heart surgery years ago and she would have been too young to know anything about it.
instead, she is about to face it now....the surgeons were relectant to do it when we were jws and she was so young.
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Tyrone van leyen
Wo ho ho, where do I start with this one. I'm new here and it will take all my strength to not curse with vile profanities. There has never been any closure for about oh, maybe a billion injustices. I'm seething with contempt and disdain. There's not enough gigabytes on this computer to vent my rage. I guess that means yes but maybe it'll come out slowly. I've been screaming and bitching, hopping and jumping, tooting and farting for 2 decades now. All my logic, and passion has fallen on deaf ears including especially my elder father and my mother. It's a long story.
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What XMas Present Would You Like This Year???
by minimus inone thing that jws do, whether they were "strong in the truth" or not is accept presents.
even if they don't "celebrate" thanksgiving, they'd still take the turkey from the employer.
if someone sent out a birthday gift or christmas present, a witness would still take but never givein return.
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Tyrone van leyen
Christmas, what is that? I've been out for 20 years and my social life has never recovered. All in the family still are witnesses. Nowhere to go. I've missed so much and hurt so bad for so long I can't even begin to fool myself into thinking that i'm having a good time. The other day I forced myself out the door to visit an old couple down the road and they had decorations and they were in a really good mood. All I could think of is what I missed all my life and stormed out the door. I remember for many years I walked the snow-covered streets by myself in the dark. All their was for me was the local mission. I'm sorry if i'm recking anybody's christmas spirit santa, but iv'e never even received a birthday present, let alone a christmas gift and could truly care less at this point. No wait I know what I want, my life back, but if you can't santa I will be happy with the complete annialation of the watch tower and everybody involved in it. I'd take that over money any day.